"Hi pradeep I want to add 2 years of fake experience in software testing field to get job. I am fearing about getting caught. What would you reccomend"
I have a podcast on fake experience and Indian testers. You might want to listen to the podcast to know the truth about faking experience in software testing or any other field for that matter and here is the link "Fake experience and Indian testers".
Everyone who adds a fake experience fears about being caught or feel guilty throughout their career and some unlucky ones are jailed. If you plan to add a fake experience, all you need to do is to decide whether you want to travel through your life with guilt and fear of being jailed or paddle smoothly as others who work hard do. Those who add a fake experience are those who indirectly admit that they dont have the brains that work and I pity their parents who think their son/daughter has brains that work. I ask one question to all those who plan to add a fake experience - Would you be happy if you come to know your father also did the same? (unless your father is a politician) You are the role model for your children and if this is what you do, don't expect your children to be any better than you!
If you still haven't listened to the audio link, you are missing something important.
"Pradeep, I am from India and want to know if there is a future in software testing. I am confused as some of my friends are saying software testing has no future"
I usually say, "There is a great future for software testing but not sure if there is a future to people who ask questions about its future"Here is when software testing has no future:
- When all of us decide to live with bugs that causes us not to perform some important tasks.
- When all of us are ready to pay a huge amount to buy a product that has some issues.
- When all of us are not bothered if the ATM delivers a 100 rupee note as compared to 1000 being deducted for the withdrawal.
- When all of us decide to board a plane whose components have not undergone any testing.
- When all of us are happy to see a online banking system take away all our heard earned savings because we hit the "delete" button by mistake.
- When all of us as customers love bugs than the products in which it exists.
- When all of us decide to pay for an anti virus software that doesn't catch any viruses but multiplies them.
- When all of us are happy and ready to settle a bill that a software error generated and making our monthly rental for a mobile phone connection as 4594858 rupees.
- When all of us decide that we don't buy or use software products in India.
- When all of us decide to walk 100 miles a day and stand in a queue that has thousands of people waiting to book a ticket in a kiosk whose system crashed and is not recovering.
- Maybe a zillion more things.
"Pradeep i really have a doubt.....i had been in manual testing for the past 1.5 years...still not gone into Automated testing...I think u know the domain in which m in. People r really scaring me that u will never have future in manual testing...I really got pissed out ....If i like to move into automated testing....whats the stepping stone for it."
Hmm! What do you mean by "still not gone into automated testing"? There is no thumb rule that a tester is mandated to follow to shape his career. It's never like this:
First year of career - Manual testing
Next 3 years - Automation Tester - QTP
Next 3 years - Lead
Next 4 years - Manager
Next 2 years - Senior Manager
Next 2 years - Assistant Vice President
I infer that many people to my knowledge in North America do what they enjoy doing and many people to my knowledge in India do what others feel they would enjoy. I enjoy blogging and hence many testers do read, appreciate, learn and come back. I am not sure people would have enjoyed reading my blog had I wrote something with an assumption that if I didn't write about QTP, some testers might not come back or enjoy reading it, I would have been exposed as a fool.
If you enjoy what you do, you are set to be happy despite the failure you might face. If you do what you don't enjoy doing, you might be unhappy despite the success that you think has come to you.
"...recently i did software testing course from Infics Solutions.now i am trying to get job in the same field.i am attaching my resume with this mail. u plz go thru it...n plz suggest me, whether i can get job in testing field with the the technical skills n the background i have ????? coz in few companies...only B.E. candidates r preferred."
First, if you want to write to someone and expect them to respond to your e-mail, I recommend you to not use a chat style of writing. They might not take you serious and maybe you are repeating this because none of them pointed it out to you.
By going through your resume, I might not be able to say whether you can get a job in software testing but I might be able to say if I have discussions with you on testing if I am looking to hire someone. Your resume or profile is a set of claims that you make about your technical skills and knowledge. By going through the claims your technical skills or the knowledge you have in testing, cannot be quantified, in my opinion.
Also, you have undergone training from a training center that claims to teach testing and yet it appears to me that you aren't confident or skeptic about your chances of getting job in this field. Perhaps, you must help your juniors realize that such a kind of a training hardly helps you develop confidence or build your passion nor it helps you to get a job in software testing.
A good test team needs to be diversified with skills, background of a tester, knowledge... If a company is insisting on having only BE degree holders as candidates then probably they might re-consider their decision when they realize or discover the need to have candidates from different degree and science backgrounds. It is good to have someone who has worked on banking applications with a banking or finance degree in a testing team instead of all members of the team from computer science background.
" ... my boss asked me about automation testing, he wants to automate his projects, just coz he believes that lots of bugs can be found only by automation. can you help me?".
You want to automate things just because your boss feels automation could find a lot of bugs? Well, I don't know about your context, maybe your boss wanted to mean "We could find those bugs that can't be caught by manual computer assisted testing by automating those tests that can be automated".
If I were in your situation, I would point him out to this article written by James Bach to help him get much clear view on what idea I subscribe to about automation, and help him understand what it could do and what it can't.
I came to know from your e-mail that you do a web application testing and you might want to look into tools like WATIR / SAHI (developed by an Indian in Thought Works,
"...Before I joined this company there wasn’t any employee specialized for testing, this job was done by developer itself. And even now some times the developers here underestimate testing sometimes...”.
As testers we shouldn't spend time looking who is respecting our profession but instead look for bugs that could build reputation for us within the organization. I happened to work with developers who were from premier universities like IISc and IIT who wondered if I who had studied from a not so premier university could find bugs in their code. Within a month their impression on me changed and they started calling me "crash specialist" and they started valuing testing as an important activity to better their development skills.
We talked about the crashes stories when we met recently and it was great fun on both sides. Probably, instead of waiting for the software testing craft to gain respect, people like you and me can help the craft get better respect by doing good testing.
"Is it necessary that the testers should have the knowledge of coding to do testing? I am really confused sometimes as I really feel I am in wrong profession. Can you advice?"
The necessity is based on the product and context you are working. Diversity is a very important aspect in software testing and I love to give an analogy of Jurassic park movie where we see raptors doing a coordinated attack for a healthy test team. When raptors need to hunt their prey, each of them takes a role - to corner the prey, to distract the prey, to launch a surprise attack...
Now, a healthy test team might comprise of a technology man, domain man, business behind the product - fellow, script wizard, explorer, bug hungry man, lateral thinker, logic analyzer ( man ), general system thinker, plan man, cooler ( man ), Sherlock Holmes and Watson, the inventor, the discoverer.
It's tough to look for all these qualities in one man and also tough to make such people to get together as a team or maybe there is a scarcity. As testers, we need to have skills of at least 3 of them to start off and as we practice testing, we might want to put more men into us.
For instance, you might already be a Bug Hungry Man but you should start growing yourself to a Bug Hungry Man + Sherlock Holmes + General Systems Thinker ... over a few years of experience.
You are also free to discard one or two of them if you feel you are strong with other men inside you. If your team already has a script wizard, you better develop yourself as other personalities. If you are in a team where there is a need of a script wizard despite all other personalities being present in the team, you develop the skill of scripting.
I feel safe most of the times, as I can always find someone who knows scripting but I did scripting in Perl for a couple of months when there was a need and I volunteered to be the script wizard for a while.
"problem that i am facing is that i don't get time to test as i am always busy preparing the metrics, reports, meetings which gives me goosbumps - i am not testing."
If you run Cost v/s Value in your mind and if you are training yourself to be a situationally aware person, you might not face such a problem. Instead of having a 2 hour meeting on what could be done for a customer who is expecting a report at the end of the day, it is better to do a few tests and find bugs that might help you in deciding what you could do by the end of the day.
Also, if you spend too much time calculating or preparing a metric sheet which otherwise could be spent in finding more important problems and have a report that is crisp and yet conveys the important information you might not run into problems or might clear such traps in testing.
Pradeep Soundararajan - firstname.lastname@example.org - +91-98451-76817
"Pradeep's first language is not English--his first language appears to be testing." -- Michael Bolton