tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post6073518906572034385..comments2023-09-01T13:36:59.610+05:30Comments on Tester Tested !: Why good software testers should come out of the well?Pradeep Soundararajanhttp://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comBlogger28125tag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-14558854959236391512012-04-30T18:10:43.874+05:302012-04-30T18:10:43.874+05:30Hi Pradeep,
I am also in the folk of people who a...Hi Pradeep,<br /><br />I am also in the folk of people who are greatly inspired by your blog to start blogging. <br />Since i am new to blogging so i am just starting with the basic definition and with passed of time i will continue with the real learning that i have learned from my experience working with various product in Adobe. <br />Here is my link <br />http://abodeqa.wordpress.com<br /><br />With Regrads<br />Dwarika D. Mishra <br />http://abodeqa.wordpress.comAbodeqahttp://abodeqa.wordpress.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-40608207719046396862011-06-15T09:50:34.630+05:302011-06-15T09:50:34.630+05:30Hi Pradeep,
I am a tester for the last nine month...Hi Pradeep,<br /><br />I am a tester for the last nine months. Taking inspiration from your blogs and other tester bloggers, I have also started blogging.<br /><br />http://passionatesting.blogspot.com<br /><br />Please read it whenever you are free and let me know on the blog itself how you felt about it.<br /><br /><br />Thanks,<br />Anuj Sharma<br />http://passionatesting.blogspot.comAnuj Sharmahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/07339672852843043621noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-45210018203213726522011-03-25T17:04:15.081+05:302011-03-25T17:04:15.081+05:30Hi Pradeep,
It's a eye opener blog for all th...Hi Pradeep,<br /><br />It's a eye opener blog for all the testers who thinks their jobs are of less prio. And i used to be one among thm. But i am really proud to be tester. <br /><br />I have gained lot of finer insights of testing from your posts. And i curse myself for being such a bad tester all these years. <br /><br />Better late than never!!! I will get back with my blog :)Dharmo Rakshathi Rakshitha:https://www.blogger.com/profile/17855478874415426108noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-60067441080677093812009-08-06T10:34:25.751+05:302009-08-06T10:34:25.751+05:30@Tahmid,
As a "Bad Frog" i am gonna say...@Tahmid,<br /><br /><i>As a "Bad Frog" i am gonna say again.. that you are genius! :)</i><br /><br />It's bad frogs that make me feel like a genius :) <br /><br />I hope the frog comes out of the well competing with this frog who is croaking outside the well talking to all frogs in the well to come out.Pradeep Soundararajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-43503980036856093652009-08-06T08:20:49.967+05:302009-08-06T08:20:49.967+05:30Good post to inspire others to start blogging! As ...Good post to inspire others to start blogging! As a "Bad Frog" i am gonna say again.. that you are genius! :)Tahmid Munazhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/01694523202264085944noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-74420380780790465382009-07-07T19:46:05.397+05:302009-07-07T19:46:05.397+05:30@Gokul,
Just in case you come back here: My name ...@Gokul,<br /><br />Just in case you come back here: My name is Pradeep /Soundararajan/. Your blog has an incorrect spelling of the same. I hope you would fix it.Pradeep Soundararajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-41458345721051999882009-07-07T17:14:13.098+05:302009-07-07T17:14:13.098+05:30@Gokul,
Very nice to know your views.Albeit, seri...@Gokul,<br /><br /><i>Very nice to know your views.Albeit, serious testers challenging the dumb blogs, there is always a chance of numerous blogs with misleading contents.<br /></i><br /><br />There are testers who say I offer misleading content. Should I stop blogging?<br /><br /><i>One way to handle this is to have group blogs, the group can be from same organization/team, or tester's personal testing friends across companies.In this way, there will be a hidden peer review and increased competency and less no.of.blogs which is good for blogger world. For e.g,a small group of 3 testers will reduce the blog list in the ratio of 3:1.<br /></i><br /><br />If every tester were writing three blogs we can consider asking them to put it into one but currently the number of testers are so huge and the number of testing bloggers are so little.<br /><br />Have a look at many reputed testing bloggers blogroll - how many Indian testers would you see in there blog roll?<br /><br />Aren't there good people?<br /><br /><br />You can never control people putting in junk stuff. If you want to then 90% of the internet content has to be deleted and that may include some of my posts as well.<br /><br />I would leave the choice to people reading the content than people writing it. If someone is being influenced by ready-made-answers and no thought process oriented problem solving approach, they deserve it. However, there might be a spark stage at everyone's life that might change things.<br /><br />First lets get people to blog and then lets think about what is not so good and what is not so bad. Testing is a nascent field and blogging in testing is very young. So, we shouldn't be constraining growth at a young age and lets leave it for the future generations to decide.Pradeep Soundararajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-12648653734900898632009-07-07T17:06:56.474+05:302009-07-07T17:06:56.474+05:30Hi Pradeep,
Very nice to know your views.Albeit, ...Hi Pradeep,<br /><br />Very nice to know your views.Albeit, serious testers challenging the dumb blogs, there is always a chance of numerous blogs with misleading contents.<br /><br />One way to handle this is to have group blogs, the group can be from same organization/team, or tester's personal testing friends across companies.In this way, there will be a hidden peer review and increased competency and less no.of.blogs which is good for blogger world. For e.g,a small group of 3 testers will reduce the blog list in the ratio of 3:1.<br /><br />Eager to know your opinion.Gokulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18188071217946782043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-84044981975630159802009-07-07T07:47:08.737+05:302009-07-07T07:47:08.737+05:30@Gokul,
I am Gokul, a software tester. I am seein...@Gokul,<br /><br /><i>I am Gokul, a software tester. I am seeing a potential danger in your message, that is creation of 'too-many-redudant-and-dumb-blog-posts' and lot of unwanted and overwhelming 'noise' of information about software testing.</i><br /><br />Cool. I like your point. What do you think testers like you and me would do to those dumb posts - challenge them. Ain't it? <br /><br />That helps them. Debasis Pradhan started with copy paste and then later self-developed to what he blogs today.<br /><br />I think once we get them to the platform, we can help them grow better - if they are ok in receiving help from us.<br /><br /><i>I am Gokul, a software tester. I am seeing a potential danger in your message, that is creation of 'too-many-redudant-and-dumb-blog-posts' and lot of unwanted and overwhelming 'noise' of information about software testing.</i><br /><br />Actually there is already lot of noise and that's why we need more good testers to blog to help reduction of the noise.<br /><br />I know of a lot of bloggers who gave up getting tired of copy paste. They wont last longer.<br /><br />Hey, I started blogging as a dumb ( and remain dumb to some ) but then I learned valuable things in the course of blogging and became not-so-dumb.<br /><br />So, it helps. I am glad you have started to blog. My best wishes.<br /><br />( There is also a selfish motive behind this post - I want to learn from people like you. You might be far away that I can't reach but I could learn about you and then your ideas of testing and help myself come out of partially-dumb mode )Pradeep Soundararajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-52083816503151901732009-07-07T05:05:53.375+05:302009-07-07T05:05:53.375+05:30Hi Pradeep,
I am Gokul, a software tester. I am s...Hi Pradeep,<br /><br />I am Gokul, a software tester. I am seeing a potential danger in your message, that is creation of 'too-many-redudant-and-dumb-blog-posts' and lot of unwanted and overwhelming 'noise' of information about software testing.<br /><br />In my opinion,serious value added blog posts are more important than creation of new blogs.A system for scrutinizing blog posts is the one we need to avoid the 'noise' of information.A potential danger of wrong information and wrong techniques are possible due to high volume of blogs.Gokulhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/18188071217946782043noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-64498560950358350742009-07-05T23:36:57.539+05:302009-07-05T23:36:57.539+05:30@Raj,
Your work(especially your blog) has given m...@Raj,<br /><br /><i>Your work(especially your blog) has given many a times new dimensions to my thoughts and connected me to lot of learning resources though I may have remained a silent observer but now I have decided to speak up and thus a blog of my own.... and yes definately there will be noise and music.<br /></i><br /><br />Please be careful in being influenced by my work. They are heuristics.<br /><br /><i>http://www.viddler.com/explore/testingtruck/videos/1/ <br /></i><br /><br />Way to go. I think you should do more of this. Write to me for any help you'd want.<br /><br /><br />Here is your two fold mission:<br /><br />1. Get going and discover the energy in yourselves.<br /><br />2. Get others going as well.Pradeep Soundararajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-32294870019045764182009-07-05T21:40:54.493+05:302009-07-05T21:40:54.493+05:30@Pradeep
Sure, there is and will be more to come....@Pradeep<br />Sure, there is and will be more to come...it's just a humble start.<br /><br />What do you mean by silent student? I think you should make enough noises against the bad and make sweet sounds for the good through your blog posts.<br /><br /><br />By Silent Student i meant a student who may not be always on forefront or counted among learners when great lessons of life (or testing) are delivered by professionals. Remember, there are many students like Ekalavya of Mahabharata who silently learn by treating statues as their Dronacharya (guru or teacher). I feel I am one such ekalavya who have silently put in some efforts to learn from the work of professionals like Dr. Cem Kaner and many others. Your work(especially your blog) has given many a times new dimensions to my thoughts and connected me to lot of learning resources though I may have remained a silent observer but now I have decided to speak up and thus a blog of my own.... and yes definately there will be noise and music.<br /><br />I wish to see testing demonstrations from you, test reports and experience reports in your blog.<br /><br />Thanks for the input, will add some stuff to cover the ground here. Here are some bug replication videos I posted on testingtruck under the head Video Station:<br /><br />http://www.viddler.com/explore/testingtruck/videos/1/ <br />http://www.viddler.com/explore/testingtruck/videos/8/<br /><br />(RAJ AHUJA)Raj Ahujahttp://testingtruck.ning.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-52602959158387381752009-07-05T17:01:18.338+05:302009-07-05T17:01:18.338+05:30@Rah Ahuja,
Here is the another one that started ...@Rah Ahuja,<br /><br /><i>Here is the another one that started with your inspirations on May 16th this year. Your current post makes me realize that I should have no excuse to say why I havn't blogged after my first post so will write more shortly....<br /></i><br /><br />First blog post is typically the easist one. I wish to see more and having known you, I hope there will be more to come.<br /><br /><i>Here is the first blog post titled "Silent Student of Pradeep Soundararajan/Cem Kaner finally decided to speak up!"<br /></i><br /><br />What do you mean by silent student? I think you should make enough noises against the bad and make sweet sounds for the good through your blog posts.<br /><br />I wish to see testing demonstrations from you, test reports and experience reports in your blog.Pradeep Soundararajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-68994088214959373252009-07-04T20:56:17.727+05:302009-07-04T20:56:17.727+05:30Hi Pradeep,
Here is the another one that started ...Hi Pradeep,<br /><br />Here is the another one that started with your inspirations on May 16th this year. Your current post makes me realize that I should have no excuse to say why I havn't blogged after my first post so will write more shortly....<br /><br />Here is the link:<br /><br />http://testingtruck.ning.com<br /><br />Here is the first blog post titled "Silent Student of Pradeep Soundararajan/Cem Kaner finally decided to speak up!"<br /><br /><br />http://testingtruck.ning.com/profiles/blogs/silent-student-of-pradeep<br /><br />Let me know your thoughts on this startup....Raj Ahujahttp://testingtruck.ning.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-35021796516707582682009-07-04T07:34:26.127+05:302009-07-04T07:34:26.127+05:30@Suresh,
Its an official blog. Soon he will share...@Suresh,<br /><br /><i>Its an official blog. Soon he will share the same posts in blogger too..<br /></i><br /><br />That's cool.<br /><br /><i>Now another tester got inspired from him and started blog, so testing blog is like a network now .. the fire is spreading</i><br /><br />If your brother can get all his organization testers to blog ( and be consistent ) I would consider that as a great achievement as a tester.Pradeep Soundararajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-23486214462788185742009-07-03T19:31:23.711+05:302009-07-03T19:31:23.711+05:30/The goal of writing this post is to help you unde.../The goal of writing this post is to help you understand that there are more brothers ( All Indians [except your wife and parents ] could be your brothers and sisters ). Which brother are you talking about?<br /><br />Does your brother help other testers to set up a blog?<br /><br />Does he blog on software testing?/<br /><br />I am talking about my own brother vijay who is inspiring other co testers in his office and he his sharing his testing experiences with other testers,developers with his blog.<br /><br />Its an official blog. Soon he will share the same posts in blogger too..<br /><br />Now another tester got inspired from him and started blog, so testing blog is like a network now ..<br /><br />the fire is spreadingSureshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04638921436043624439noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-63848723130334251322009-07-01T10:46:46.435+05:302009-07-01T10:46:46.435+05:30Nice Post Pradeep,
Blogging has helped me consci...Nice Post Pradeep, <br /><br />Blogging has helped me consciously to work on my writing skills and also to articulate what i think better. I have also met a lot of testers through blogging and many a times the comments to my posts have answered questioned me to think more. <br /><br />Pradeep, encouraged me to blog and the advice he gave me then was "do not worry whether the content you post is correct or not, post what you feel, question and learn" - and even now i follow this...in fact most of my posts are questions :)<br /><br />-Sharath.B<br />http://testtotester.blogspot.com/Sharath Byregowdahttps://www.blogger.com/profile/05598574569004749448noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-26270583111962990562009-07-01T06:33:07.964+05:302009-07-01T06:33:07.964+05:30Jeroen,
Thanks for the comment. People usually ha...Jeroen,<br /><br />Thanks for the comment. People usually have content for their first post but the test comes only after that. You pointed that out.<br /><br />Here are tiny changes I'd suggest:<br /><br /><b>If I should blog, I should have content - to start with:</b> You may just have one sentence and while you write it, keep looking at the draft for a couple of days ( spending maybe a minute on it each day ) you may be able to derive the content. Often, if you are conscious about what you learn and what you experience, the job becomes much easier. You are learning to be a writer so it takes time.<br /><br /><i> No to convince my colleagues to start blogging.</i><br /><br />No or Now? Gives different meanings if it is No and Now.Pradeep Soundararajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-79971989435256503982009-06-30T23:22:11.849+05:302009-06-30T23:22:11.849+05:30Hello Pradeep,
here another one:
If I should blog,...Hello Pradeep,<br />here another one:<br /><b>If I should blog, I should have content.</b> In my experience having a blog learned me to summarize things and create a draft. You could also write it down in a document on your PC, only my experience is that it will stay there. Having a blog learned me to write down ideas, do some research, and sort of finish it when I think I wrote enough. There is always space for another posting to continue.<br /><br />Ofcourse it takes time. For me it is all worth it, I noticed I keep learning. No to convince my colleagues to start blogging.Jeroen Rosinkhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/02780132978624117482noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-59740871123529260892009-06-30T21:53:57.450+05:302009-06-30T21:53:57.450+05:30@Anne-Marie,
Thanks for your comment.
I think ...@Anne-Marie,<br /><br />Thanks for your comment. <br /><br /><i><br />I think that many tester's blogs are similar with the same ideas and concepts. </i><br /><br />Well, they look like same but they aren't. Oh, the same idea across many blogs is - think while you test and test while you think. The difference between them is they share different approaches to achieve that, to help we humans who need different mechanisms and examples to learn. <br /><br /><i>Personally, I'd like to see some tester's with ISTQB blogging with their ideas. It would add more depth to our community.</i><br /><br />You are right. I am wondering why aren't there ones that we know already.Pradeep Soundararajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-68424357560506586242009-06-30T20:44:37.672+05:302009-06-30T20:44:37.672+05:30Hi Pradeep, another excellent post, different and ...Hi Pradeep, another excellent post, different and thought provoking. I think blogging is one way of forumlating your thoughts and writings skills. Its a great thing to have on a CV too. <br /><br />"There are number of other ways you can demonstrate to the world about your testing skills and I think you should do that. Ah! No, not by saying you are proud to be ISTQB certified, that would drive away people."<br /><br />I think that many tester's blogs are similar with the same ideas and concepts. Personally, I'd like to see some tester's with ISTQB blogging with their ideas. It would add more depth to our community.Anne-Mariehttp://mavericktester.comnoreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-15148557181593820742009-06-30T16:07:47.585+05:302009-06-30T16:07:47.585+05:30@Simon,
There is no standing-still in software te...@Simon,<br /><br /><i>There is no standing-still in software testing - continuous learning and development (technical and soft skills) - otherwise you're going backwards.<br /></i><br /><br /><br />Note that software testing is a very young profession or field that needs to expand. As the field expands, we have to adapt to it. That's one reason a certified testers get misguided by standardized way of testing. As though this field has flourished for a million years and people know everything about it.<br /><br />Plus, the Earth is still evolving and no one knows how it is going to evolve. Humans and animals have always adapted to it. You would see a Polar Bear with thick fur and you wouldn't see any animal in Chennai with thick fur unless you bring it from somewhere else. That indicates adaptability.<br /><br /><br /><i>The point about being an expert (or not needing to be one before stating anything for yourself) is very true - and this makes me think of a point of advice to all that read your blog - a reminder that there is no world's best tester (it's meaningless) - so don't even bother trying.</i><br /><br />I am trying to help people understand that a blog has got nothing to do with being an expert or not.<br /><br /><a href="http://testersblog.com" rel="nofollow">Santhosh Tuppad</a> is a fresher who blogs about software testing. If you visit his blog you'd be amazed at how his blog is helping him learn and aids a faster learning for him. Many experienced testers who have been reluctant to blog must derive inspiration from him.Pradeep Soundararajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-45945531203417513852009-06-30T15:47:03.414+05:302009-06-30T15:47:03.414+05:30Hi Pradeep,
Interesting comments that I'm sur...Hi Pradeep,<br /><br />Interesting comments that I'm sure will be recognisable to many.<br /><br />The point about being an expert (or not needing to be one before stating anything for yourself) is very true - and this makes me think of a point of advice to all that read your blog - a reminder that there is no world's best tester (it's meaningless) - so don't even bother trying. <br /><br />Aim to be a good tester, then a better tester, then a tester that can both sustain your own development (open to learning opportunities pointed out by others and recognise them yourself) and contribute to others, eventually you might be an expert tester (either recognised by others or yourself) - but even expert testers must continue learning/researching.<br /><br />There is no standing-still in software testing - continuous learning and development (technical and soft skills) - otherwise you're going backwards.<br /><br /><br />Thanks for the tip about the testing challenge - I'll have a look.Simon Morleyhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/10629592766073538811noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-25718012923600462842009-06-30T15:25:47.078+05:302009-06-30T15:25:47.078+05:30@Kashif,
Thanks for your comment. I would definit...@Kashif,<br /><br />Thanks for your comment. I would definitely go through your blog and I am crazy about reading others blogs and learning from it.<br /><br /><i>and guide me more about how i can improve my blog.<br /></i><br /><br />I learnt to guide myself and that is what I expect you to do. The best guidance I could have given is to publish this post and I did it :)<br /><br />@Suresh,<br /><br /><i>Hi Friend i told my brother to blog . Now Entire company knows about my brother for him you are the inspiration</i><br /><br />The goal of writing this post is to help you understand that there are more brothers ( All Indians [except your wife and parents ] could be your brothers and sisters ). Which brother are you talking about?<br /><br />Does your brother help other testers to set up a blog?<br /><br />Does he blog on software testing?Pradeep Soundararajanhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/17849721523107325938noreply@blogger.comtag:blogger.com,1999:blog-21132099.post-29189484398816264082009-06-30T15:20:13.515+05:302009-06-30T15:20:13.515+05:30Hi Friend i told my brother to blog . Now Entire c...Hi Friend i told my brother to blog . Now Entire company knows about my brother for him you are the inspirationSureshhttps://www.blogger.com/profile/04638921436043624439noreply@blogger.com